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Kaze 寫:
I've just downloaded your latest language pack and I've edited it a little:
  • it used the same GUID as the french langpack, this has been corrected;
  • I've added a default preference file to trigger the « zh-TW » locale set: installing your langpack didn't switch KompoZer 0.7.10 in chinese on my Linux box;
  • I've removed the « tchineselocales.jar » file because I think this file isn't necessary: the french Mozilla team uses it only to display their icon in the extension manager;
  • I've added an auto-update link so this language pack can be easily updated from KompoZer itself.
I've uploaded this modified version to my SourceForge site: http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/l10n/kp ... 070830.xpi
This link will always lead to the latest traditional chinese langpack: http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/l10n/kp ... k-zhTW.xpi

If I did mistakes with your langpack, please tell me. If you have questions with the way these langpacks work, feel free to contact me.

Very best regards to all contributors of MozillaTW! :)

Welcome to MozTW again, kaze!!

I'm very grateful for your help with zh-TW locale. Please inform me if you find any mistakes in zh-TW locale.

  • I messed zh-TW locale in earlier versions (I can't remember since which version exactly, maybe 0820 or 0830... ) because I made some mistakes when using Mozlcdb. I re-imported en-US and zh-TW locale in 0903 version. But I were not aware of the GUID mistake, thank you for your correction.
  • I will test zh-tw locale in fedora 7 or Ubuntu 7.04 soon.
  • I notice that you marked some items as "useless?" in chrome registration area. In fact, I have quite limited knowledge about programming. I kept them just because I don't know if they are needed. That's also why I created useless tchineselocale.jar from frenchlocale.jar. I removed them from my 20070907 version and it seems no problem.
  • I created kz-0710-zhTW.20070907.zip according to your install.rdf, defaults directory, and my chrome directory. I know you modified some items (autoMarginUnit/thinBorderUnit/mediumBorderUnit/thickBorderUnit) in EdCssProps.dtd and I've adopted these items in this version (20070907). I also made quite a few modifications for zh-TW translaion according to 三腳貓 Three-leg-cat's suggestions and my own opinions. This new version is available to download for testing in the first post of this thread.

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三腳貓 Three-leg-cat 寫:
It's glad to see you in this forum. I'm one of those who admires the KompoZer project very much and have been doing very little to help in the Chinese translations.

In regard to the kpz-langpack-zhTW-0.7.10.20070830.xpi, coolcd has made corrections on two(or maybe more) duplicated keyboard shortcuts with errors(due to migration of the shortcut keys from the French version). Any versions before 20070903 should have the problem remained. And according to coolcd, a 20070904 version is coming with which I guess he is ready to update. Just stay tune!

不是 very little help,是 great help. :D
要是只有我自己,絕對沒這個耐心去比對翻譯詞彙。

雖然有時候看到一些芝麻綠豆的建議,很想來個精神勝利法,叫巷子裡的狗去欺負後巷的野貓洩忿,不過耐著性子改著改著,好像也已經改了蠻多地方了。 :wink:

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coolcd 大,20070907 語系在按「框線(Borders)」時會出現錯誤訊息:圖檔
又要勞煩您一下了。

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coolcd 大,20070907 語系在按「框線(Borders)」時會出現錯誤訊息:
又要勞煩您一下了。

又出包了 :oops: ,謝謝回報,已修正。

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三腳貓 Three-leg-cat 寫:
p.s. I have found on WYSIFAuthoring the a few "themes" from NVU/KOMPOZER ADD-ONS unusable with the latest KompoZer version, and that once a new theme is installed the default theme couldn't be found and restored, so I had to delete the whold profile and make a new one...I hope volunteers there will do a quick fix soon. :wink:
Uh oh...
I think you've just found a bug in the Linux version. I will check that.

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I will test zh-tw locale in fedora 7 or Ubuntu 7.04 soon.
Could you try the RPM package to test it in Fedora 7, please? http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kompoz ... 0-i386.rpm
The DEB package has been reported to work on Debian Etch and all Ubuntu versions since 6.06, but the RPM package has only been tested on Mandriva 2007 so far.

coolcd 寫:
I notice that you marked some items as "useless?" in chrome registration area. In fact, I have quite limited knowledge about programming. I kept them just because I don't know if they are needed.
I still do not know if these items are needed or not, this is why I have put them under this «useless?» separator. This is just a reminder for myself.

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I created kz-0710-zhTW.20070907.zip according to your install.rdf, defaults directory, and my chrome directory. I know you modified some items (autoMarginUnit/thinBorderUnit/mediumBorderUnit/thickBorderUnit) in EdCssProps.dtd and I've adopted these items in this version (20070907). I also made quite a few modifications for zh-TW translaion according to 三腳貓 Three-leg-cat's suggestions and my own opinions. This new version is available to download for testing in the first post of this thread.
I have only found the 20070908 version, which seems corrupted (I cannot open it neither with KompoZer nor with my file archiver). I will wait for your next release.


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I have only found the 20070908 version, which seems corrupted (I cannot open it neither with KompoZer nor with my file archiver). I will wait for your next release.

I made a mistake in EdCssProps.dtd in 20070907 version and corrected it in 20070908 version. It seems the uploaded kz-0710-zhTW.20070908.zip was corrupted. I've re-uploaded the new one. Please try again.


To others,

我已經重新上傳 20070908 的版本,請回報是否可正常運作。

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It seems the uploaded kz-0710-zhTW.20070908.zip was corrupted. I've re-uploaded the new one. Please try again.

放上了去的 20070908 版本,有兩個鏈結,不過下面的那一個還沒有更新,而上面的--是 20070908-114 版才是正確可用的版本。

然而,不幸發現選單上的所有項目後的「(X)...」全轉了「...(X)」的樣子,例如:「圖片(I)...」變成了「圖片...(I)」。查看了別的應用程式,確定了不是因為夜貓子少睡覺而眼花.....

另外,說起括號,現時版本的 Firefox 都會(大概因為美觀的緣故)在一對括號前後的文字內容之間,分別加上一個半形空白,例如:「檔案 (F)」。不知道如果要修改是不是很麻煩的事?不過,這點在下得說,其實 KompoZer 中有一些文字已經隔了一個空格,只是大部分都沒有隔開,那是說看來怎也要做一次「大手術」了,不如順道把問題處理?

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To kaze,

I just successfully installed kompozer 0.7.10 in Fedora Core 6 by using the RPM package. The 20070908 zh-TW locale works well for me. However, I faced one problem when installing the locale extension in Fedora Core 6 in my virtual machine.I got
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(Gecko:28448): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_drag_get_data: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

when I drag'n'drop zh-TW locale xpi file (stored the Desktop) to KompoZer Extensions window. But if I installed the locale extension by using 'Install' button on the Extensions window of KompoZer, I could successfully installed the extension.

FYI, my Fedora Core 6 LANG setting is
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LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

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I will test zh-tw locale in fedora 7 or Ubuntu 7.04 soon.
Could you try the RPM package to test it in Fedora 7, please? http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kompoz ... 0-i386.rpm
The DEB package has been reported to work on Debian Etch and all Ubuntu versions since 6.06, but the RPM package has only been tested on Mandriva 2007 so far.

I'm using this RPM and have tested it against Fedora Core 4 without problems. This works even when I removed Quick Locale Switcher extension, on which the several previous locale versions rely.

However, a user from Ubuntu Taiwan Forum(discussion in Chinese) found that the locale(not the most updated version) couldn't be installed automatically in Ubuntu 7.10, probably due to privilege problem??...(The locale file was said to have to be extracted and installed manually...)though I don't have further information on the issue.

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coolcd 寫:
It seems the uploaded kz-0710-zhTW.20070908.zip was corrupted. I've re-uploaded the new one. Please try again.

放上了去的 20070908 版本,有兩個鏈結,不過下面的那一個還沒有更新,而上面的--是 20070908-114 版才是正確可用的版本。

謝謝!
釐清一下,我之前是第一次 0907 -> 0908 是用「上傳新版本」的方式,但 kaze 回報說不能用,所以我次先砍掉原本附檔,再上傳一次新版本,但結果是只有文章區的鏈結才正常,下面附加檔案的表格所下載的檔案不正確,這是我操作上有問題嗎?還是 MozTW 論壇系統的問題?

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然而,不幸發現選單上的所有項目後的「(X)...」全轉了「...(X)」的樣子,例如:「圖片(I)...」變成了「圖片...(I)」。查看了別的應用程式,確定了不是因為夜貓子少睡覺而眼花.....

另外,說起括號,現時版本的 Firefox 都會(大概因為美觀的緣故)在一對括號前後的文字內容之間,分別加上一個半形空白,例如:「檔案 (F)」。不知道如果要修改是不是很麻煩的事?不過,這點在下得說,其實 KompoZer 中有一些文字已經隔了一個空格,只是大部分都沒有隔開,那是說看來怎也要做一次「大手術」了,不如順道把問題處理?

事實上,這是我這兩天把所有 ... (三個點) 改成 … (U+2026)造成的結果。為什麼要改?其實是因為想說省略號也是標準的中文標點之一,所以應該改用中文,但沒想到會有這種效果。(其實現在才想起,省略號應該是六個點啊 :oops: )現在都已經統一了,看起來感覺應該不壞吧?我似乎沒有動力去再大改一次。

比較奇怪的是,在 Windows 裡,U+2026 顯示在字的底部(底線的位置),與原來三個英文句點顯示的位置差不多,只是窄了一點;但在 Fedora Core 6,U+2026 顯示在字的中間(破折號的位置)。不知道哪一種顯示方式才是正確的?

中英文間隔、中文與半形英文圓括弧、英文圓括弧 vs 中文全形括弧的問題,我有留意到翻譯裡有時會有不一致的情況,只是因為覺得問題不大,所以一直沒有積極去改。原來的 NVU 翻譯,中英文之間沒有空格、中文與半形括弧間也沒有空格,原則上,我是按照這個慣例來做,但因自己平常是習慣中英文之間、中文與半形圓括弧間都會空一格,括弧則不一定用中文全形或半形(超壞習慣 Orz),所以有時會搞壞翻譯的慣例,造成今天的局面,我想這個以後慢慢改,現在想趕快弄個穩定的版本出來就好。

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Here comes another minor translation suggestion:
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Suggested translations:
泰文 (ISO-8859-11)
泰文 (Windows-874)

有一項「喬治亞語(GEOSTD8)」情況雷同,之前看漏了眼。

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To kaze,

Please download zh-TW locale from this link. 三腳貓 Three-leg-cat reported the link in the attachment table was still the old corrupted version. I have no idea why this happened.

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Kaze 寫:
coolcd 寫:
I will test zh-tw locale in fedora 7 or Ubuntu 7.04 soon.
Could you try the RPM package to test it in Fedora 7, please? http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kompoz ... 0-i386.rpm
The DEB package has been reported to work on Debian Etch and all Ubuntu versions since 6.06, but the RPM package has only been tested on Mandriva 2007 so far.

I'm using this RPM and have tested it against Fedora Core 4 without problems. This works even when I removed Quick Locale Switcher extension, on which the several previous locale versions rely.

However, a user from Ubuntu Taiwan Forum(discussion in Chinese) found that the locale(not the most updated version) couldn't be installed automatically in Ubuntu 7.10, probably due to privilege problem??...(The locale file was said to have to be extracted and installed manually...)though I don't have further information on the issue.


I just installed Kompozer 0.7.10 on Ubuntu 7.04 by using deb package. The situation is the same as what I've described on Fedora Core 6. After installing zh-TW locale in 20070908 version and restart, zh-TW GUI appeared as what I've expected.

FYI, my LANG setting is
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LANG=zh_TW.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=zh_TW:zh:en_US:en
LC_CTYPE="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="zh_TW.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

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事實上,這是我這兩天把所有 ... (三個點) 改成 … (U+2026)造成的結果。為什麼要改?其實是因為想說省略號也是標準的中文標點之一,所以應該改用中文,但沒想到會有這種效果。(其實現在才想起,省略號應該是六個點啊 :oops: )現在都已經統一了,看起來感覺應該不壞吧?我似乎沒有動力去再大改一次。

比較奇怪的是,在 Windows 裡,U+2026 顯示在字的底部(底線的位置),與原來三個英文句點顯示的位置差不多,只是窄了一點;但在 Fedora Core 6,U+2026 顯示在字的中間(破折號的位置)。不知道哪一種顯示方式才是正確的?

之前不察,恕失敬了。

至於省略號的高低,用文泉驛點陣字型看來是比文鼎PL新宋 Mono(或同系)字型為低。然而關於省略號的問題也真是有解的:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... iant=zh-tw
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由於在電腦鍵盤中並沒有和中文省略號相對應的按鍵,有些人會使用3個或6個句號代替。正確的做法(如中文維基提供的)是使用2個連續的「…」 (HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS, U+2026),如「……」;正確的字體會將這個符號造成和中文字一樣寬並上下居中(繁簡體相同)。有些字體生產商將之對應到另一個形狀類似的數學符號「⋯」(MIDLINE HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS, U+22EF),是不正確的。

記得自小學習書寫省略號時,無論是直式或橫式都是居中吧?

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The RPM package of KompoZer 0.7.10 works ok on Fedora 7 (with KDE as desktop). However, after installing zh-TW locale from "Install" button on Extensions window, I got the following error message:
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*** getItemProperty failing for lack of an item. This means getResourceForItem                 failed to locate a resource for aItemID (item ID = file:///home/my_user_name/%E6%A1%8C%E9%9D%A2/kz-0710-zhtw.20070908_114.xpi, property = internalName)

on the console. After restarting KompoZer, the zh-TW locale seemed to work ok as on other platforms.

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